Carlisle Journal November 30, 1855 Carlisle Health Committee

Carlisle Health Committee

CARLISLE HEALTH COMMITTEE TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1855. Present: J. HEWSON (chairman) W. CANNELL J. JAMES JAS. SIBSON T. NANSON W. RICHARDSON C. HODGSON JOHN PATTINSON JAS. MCCUTCHEON R. SIMPSON I. CARTMELL (clerk) J. SABBAGE (inspector of nuisances) JAS. HOGG (city surveyor) The Inspector of Nuisances submitted his slaughter-house and lodging-house returns.  The results will be found among our local news. It was resolved, on the motion of MR. RICHARDSON, seconded by MR. R. SIMPSON, that notice should be served upon the proper parties, to carry the drains on the east side of Lowther-street, into the main sewer. LIGHTING. It was resolved that a lamp should be erected in Peel-street. An application for a lamp to be placed in Andrew's Court, was referred to the lighting committee. A memorial was read from the inhabitants of Trinity Buildings, requesting that lamps might be erected from Caldewgate to Trinity Buildings. MR. RICHARDSON said he believed that the gas committee had decided some time ago to lay the pipes to Trinity Buildings if they could get the guarantee from private parties for the expense of the private lights.  There had been some difficulty about this, but he thought they should not allow that question to interfere with the question of public lights.  If they ordered the street to be lighted, then the gas committee would lay the pipes. MR. CANNELL said they had put up lamps along Brunton Place and he did not see how in common fairness they could refuse to do the same at Trinity Buildings. THE CHAIRMAN thought that they might as well wait a little to see if the gas company could not make the requisite arrangements with reference to the private lights before laying the pipes. MR. R. SIMPSON expressed a similar opinion. MR. J. MCCUTCHEON thought the private lights had nothing to do with it, and if they ordered the street to be lighted, then the gas committee would lay the pipes. After a little further discussion in which the general feeling was in favour of the erection of lights. MR. R. SIMPSON moved that the gas committee be ordered to light the Wigton road, from Caldewgate to the road of Trinity Buildings, under the direction of the Lighting Committee. MR. J. PATTINSON supported the motion.  He had often seen women waiting at the church for half-an-hour for company rather than go up alone. The motion was carried. MILBURN AND CHARLOTTE STREETS. MR. T. NANSON presented a memorial from the owners and inhabitants of property in Milburn and Charlotte streets, complaining of the very bad state of repair of those streets, and also of the deficiency of lamps. THE CHAIRMAN...This is an important document, and ought to be referred to some committee. MR. RICHARDSON said the lighting portion might be referred to the Lighting committee, and the other question to the Roads committee.  Milburn-street was already thoroughly lighted, but Charlotte-street was only partially so. MR. T. NANSON said both streets were badly lighted, and the roads were in a most filthy state;  often almost impassable. MR. RICHARDSON said Milburn-street had never been laid out to the full extent, and he thought MRS. DIXON ought to be called on to lay it out to the full width. MR. SIBSON...Is there any agreement ? MR. RICHARDSON...No, but none is required.  We could do it ourselves and call on her to pay for it. On the motion of MR. RICHARDSON, seconded by MR. T. NANSON, the subject was referred to the Lighting and Roads committees. TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1855 APPLICATION FOR INCREASE OF CLERK'S SALARY. THE CHAIRMAN read the following letter: ... "To the Health Committee      Carlisle, 26th Nov., 1855 Gentlemen:    I beg respectfully to bring under your notice the great increase which has taken place in the duties of the office of Committee-clerk since the amount of salary now attached to that office was fixed. I refer entirely to the business connected with the Board of Health, involving as it does the care and responsibility of managing the financial business of the Board, and requiring for that purpose a constant attendance both during the office hours, and at such other times as may be required for getting through the necessary work. For these onerous duties, the salary is only £60 per annum, making with the salaries of the City Treasurer and Clerk to the Watch and other Corporation Committees, a total of £150 per annum, an amount which I think no person at all cognizant of the extent and responsibility of the services required would deem an adequate remuneration. Having frankly brought the above facts before you, I confidently leave the matter to your decision. I have the honour, &c., ISAAC CARTMELL."                                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MR. SIBSON enquired what was the nature of MR. CARTMELL's duties, and the total amount of salaries received from the Corporation. MR. RICHARDSON said he had £60 for the Health Committee, and £40 for the other committees (£20 for the Watch and £20 for the others), making £100;  and £50 for being City Treasurer.  The amount paid to him as City Treasurer was exactly the same as was fixed when MR. WILSON first took the office, and he did not think the duties were any lighter since then. MR. CANNELL thought the duties must be a great deal less since then, as several officers had been appointed who had lessened the work.  For instance, formerly he had all the fines on the Corporation property to collect. MR. RICHARDSON said the rents had much increased since MR. WILSON's time;  formerly there used to be no such thing as free quit rents, or ground rents.  Now there was between £200 or £300 to collect. MR. CANNELL said it was all done by a boy.  He for one was not disposed to recommend any increase whatever. MR. J. PATTINSON thought the salary was adequate to the work. MR. J. MCCUTCHEON...If MR. CARTMELL thinks it too light, he had better throw up the appointment;  and we can advertise for another.   ( OH ) THE CHAIRMAN said the great increase of work was in the Health Committee.  A large amount of money was borrowed, and that entailed a great deal of book-keeping. MR. SIBSON thought that if they went on increasing the salaries of the officers, those who had to pay would not be satisfied. MR. RICHARDSON...The question is can you get the work efficiently done for the money ?  ( HEAR HEAR )   You may get people to accept the situation but can you get the work efficiently done ? THE CHAIRMAN said that was the question. MR. J. PATTINSON thought they might get a person to do all the work for £150 a year. MR. RICHARDSON...But recollect that MR. CARTMELL has to give security for something like £2,000. MR. T. NANSON suggested that they should take a week to consider the matter ( HEAR ) MR. CANNELL...Not that it has anything to do with the question, but what may MR. CARTMELL receive as clerk to the Burial Board ? THE CHAIRMAN...£30 a year. MR. CANNELL said that showed that his time was not fully occupied. MR. SIBSON enquired if he did not avoid some part of his duties by paying a sum to MR. SABBAGE. MR. RICHARDSON said he did nothing of the sort.  It was the late surveyor (MR. SCOTT) who took £10 a year less salary in order that MR. SABBAGE might be appointed inspector of nuisances. MR. C. HODGSON said MR. CARTMELL carried on private business as well, so that his time could not be fully occupied.  Besides, his connection with that board gave him the opportunity of increasing his income by becoming clerk to other boards. THE CHAIRMAN said he had two boys to employ. MR. RICHARDSON said they only did the bare writing. THE CHAIRMAN said it would be best if notice was given that the subject would be taken into consideration at their next meeting. After a short conversation, the question was postponed for a week. TAIT STREET. MR. SIBSON called attention to the state of Tait street, and enquired if any steps had been taken to compel the people who bought the property to enclose it ?  He believed that under the terms of their purchase, they were bound to build within a certain time. MR. RICHARDSON said there was no such agreement. THE CHAIRMAN thought there was, but whether there was any legal obstacle in the way of enforcing it, he did not know. MR. SIBSON said MR. RICHARDSON often answered questions when he really did not know what he was answering about  ( LAUGHTER ). After some further conversation, the subject dropped, it being understood that the exact terms of purchase were to be ascertained. THE BUTCHER MARKET. MR. I. JAMES drew attention to the inefficient lighting of the Butcher Market.  On a dark night, it was very dangerous. The subject was referred to the Lighting Committee. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

 

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