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The Times, Tuesday, Aug 31, 1819; pg. 3; Issue 10712; col A


                                CUMBERLAND ASSIZES
                    CARLISLE, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25.

             LAWSON, ESQ. V. PEAT. - RIGHT OF FISHERY.     [continued]

John NORMAN (examined by Mr. WILLIAMS), steward for 19 years to the LAWSON
family, knew Izell manor belonging to the plaintiff, and extending from
Ooze-bridge to Wood-hall, a space of about 3 miles. He had often been assisting
in dragging the river along all that space on both sides. No interruption had
ever been made. Trout of all sizes used to be caught. The trout now caught were
nothing like them in number or size.

Cross-examined by Mr. SCARLETT. - The land on the banks was all let to tenants.
It was 8 or 9 miles from the sea. Sir Frederick VANE was the adjoining
proprietor, higher up.

Foreman. - Were they river trout or sea trout you caught in the early period of
your fishing there?

Witness. - They were all river-trout so far as I knew, but I don't know exactly
the difference.

Mrs. HENDERSON, aged 64, remembered to have seen trout fished, some 2lb., some
3lb., but not many. Sitting on Izell-bridge of a summer's evening, she had often
seen salmon passing up by half-dozens; she had seen the river dragged.

John WILSON, aged 77, had fished there more than 20 years back: sea-trout and
gray-trout had been taken, and small salmon weighing 6 or 7 lb. It was now 12
years since he had been fishing there; the fish had latterly become smaller and
thinner, (fewer, although the learned Sergeant suggested it might literally mean
the thinner form acquired by being squeezed through the contracted stells.)

By the Court. - He had seen some gilts or sea-trout taken there within the last
20 years.

Thomas WYBERGH, Esq. (Mr. WYBERGH was, we believe, bred to the bar. His spirited
exertions during the last contested election in Westmorland are fresh in the
public remembrance. This was the sarcastic allusion, or rather quotation, to the
Westmorland Clergy - "The Lord gave the word, and great was the number of
preachers") begged to state to his Lordship before he should be examined, that
as the father of the plaintiff, he felt a strong bias upon this question. (His
Lordship smiled with great complaisance, and with a look that implied full
confidence in Mr. WYBERGH's honour.) The witness then stated, that he lived at
Izell-hall, and had been accustomed to fish on the river, at the place in
question, for 35 years. He calculated that when he first began to fish there,
the fish had been two-thirds more than now. He had seen it dragged, and had seen
sea-trout taken, some as heavy as 3 pounds and a half. He could not say whether
they were gilts. Dr. EASHAM (who sat in Court next the opposite counsel) was a
better naturalist than he, and could tell them.

Cross-examined by Mr. SCARLETT. - He was now as capable of standing long in the
water, and fishing for as long a time, as in his younger days. He generally went
to fish immediately after breakfast, returned at half-past four, and dined at
five. He always had a good dish of fish on his table. When he said they had been
two-thirds more numerous formerly, he spoke of river-trout as well as sea-trout.
There were now much more pike than formerly from the lake. He had known fish
grow fewer in the river Ellon, but it was from an obstruction placed in the
water.

Mr. SCARLETT. - I recollect seeing you fish at Appleby, and hearing you say that
fish had become much scarcer.

Mr. WYBERGH. - No, Sir, I never did say so.

Mr. SCARLETT. - Do you recollect seeing me when you were fishing there?

Mr. WYBERGH. - No, indeed, I do not.

Mr. SCARLETT. - But I remember it well: it was 15 years ago.

Mr. WYBERGH. - I have no recollection of having ever seen you when I was
fishing.

Mr. SCARLETT. - Well, I won't appear against you.

Mr. Justice BAYLEY. - Mr. WYBERGH, I shall ask you but one question. Did you see
any sea-trout taken there within the last 20 years?

Mr. WYBERGH. - I really cannot swear that I have. (After a considerable pause) I
ought to mention that one sea-trout, 1lb. in weight, was taken last year, and
occasioned very great surprise. (Mr. Sergeant HULLOCK and Mr. WILLIAMS gravely
surmised that it must have been thrown over the impenetrable obstruction.)

 
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